Don't get me wrong - there are a handful of songs they produced that are Rock N Roll classics of the highest caliber. But - as a band - for a lineup of hits... I think I'd rather see Def Leppard. 

It is like the Grateful Dead. They're just kind of up on a pedestal. 

Ok... not Def Leppard. That was being mean. Lynyrd Skynyrd, for sure though. I'll take Freebird live over Stairway live, any day. 

Sat Sep 21 2019 16:52:53 MST from TheDave

 Perhaps, but Kashmir is kinda perfect.

Kashmir is a wonderful song, probably my favorite Zep tune, but they are not the greatest band ever.  I really don't need to hear the same songs repeated on "get the led out!" every night.

I was at a swing band show and they asked if we had any requests so I got my friend to shout "PLAY STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN" and the guitarist dutifully started in on it and the rest of the band followed along as the lead singer's jaw dropped.  He yelled at them "We're a swing band!" so they started swinging it, which was even funnier, and it went along for a few more bars before the band leader was all "okay okay, knock it off" and it's still one of my favourite live show memories.

I love campfire songs.  What do you mean by easy?   You could learn half a dozen chords on a guitar and play a million of them.

Well, today I learned "Under the Milky Way Tonight," by the Church. Dude taught it to me when I bought another guitar from him. 

But I'm thinking songs that everybody knows and loves to hear by the campfire. I've got Maggie May, Bad Moon Rising, Every Rose... 

I want easy sing along songs... even cowboy ones like coming around the mountain... but I was hoping some of the people here had some favorites. 
Thanks for dropping by, IG. Sorry I keep disappearing. 

And look at that, now we can have this conversation on my BBS

But only if the jackasses log in, read the messages, and post responses to them! 

Tue Aug 04 2020 15:29:19 MST from ParanoidDelusions

And look at that, now we can have this conversation on my BBS

 

I mean yeah, we COULD do that but that would require actually using the site lol

Yeah, it is a novel idea. 

I was sitting around the office, and Danzig came on back in the warehouse - and it struck me how MUCH of a metal mood I was in. Generally I'm enjoying music that taps into the primal urge of males, and I think in particular males of European descent - to go on a march that crushes everything that stands before it. Drums and guitars in the beat of galloping horses and a general sense of unrestrained, unreasoning lust for destruction and misery. 

Yeah. That is where I'm at right now - and I haven't been in that mood for a long time. But I'm in mode, "Let God Sort 'em Out," at the moment. 

I could listen to Megadeth all day long and never get bored. 

That's one of the reasons I like bubblegum progressive trance.  It forces me to be happy and positive instead of brooding.  I don't think the world could handle me if I really let myself brood for a week.

Tue Nov 10 2020 21:00:51 MST from TheDave

That's one of the reasons I like bubblegum progressive trance.  It forces me to be happy and positive instead of brooding.  I don't think the world could handle me if I really let myself brood for a week.

Usually I'm more for hip, positive, fun music. 

Right now, I feel like angry music. Lots and lots of angry, Fuck Around and Find Out music. 

Just heard "Right Now," on the radio back in the warehouse - and it occurred to me that although we assume the political affiliation of a lot of classic rock super stars - they've been an oddly silent bunch the last 4 years, for the most part.

Which lead me to consider that they *could* be vocal if they want. Sammy Hagar has gotten his feelings about the death of Eddie Van Halen out there. 


And that led me to realize, Sammy Hagar is 73 years old. He has to realize his time is running low and that the last 50 years blew by like a breeze, and that if he has another 20, the last few will probably be the worst in his life. 


This probably frames his politics in a way where it doesn't get much of a rise out of him. He is at the point in life where the things that matter are different. 

There is no doubt that Right Now is the best thing that Van Hagar produced, and they never quite found that magic again as a band. I like Finish What you Started a lot too. Other than that, I can't think of a lot of Van Hagar era songs I really enjoy. 

Maybe "Right Now," is the theme song of 2020.  

https://rockandrollgarage.com/sammy-hagar-says-nirvana-freaked-him-out-when-he-was-on-van-halen/

Reading the article above, about Sammy Hagar being shocked at how dark grunge took hard edged rock, and this comes on the warehouse: 

What else should I be? All apologies
What else could I say? Everyone is gay
What else could I write? I don't have the right
What else should I be? All apologies

[Chorus]
In the sun, in the sun, I feel as one
In the sun, in the sun
Married, buried

[Verse 2]
I wish I was like you, easily amused
Find my nest to salt, everything's my fault
I'll take all the blame, aqua seafoam shame
Sunburn, freezer burn, choking on the ashes of her enemy

[Chorus]
In the sun, in the sun, I feel as one
In the sun, in the sun
Married, buried
Married, buried
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah


All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are
All in all is all we are

But I think it represents part of what I never liked about Sammy Hagar. He is just complete party rock. He is basically LMFAO. Nothing is serious to him, and never has been. It is all comic-book rock. 

There is nothing wrong with that - but - I feel like he was actually detached from what a lot of his fans were *experiencing*. That is where bands like Sound Garden and Nirvana and Pearl Jam came from - from the DIY, direct influence of 80's punk... music that enfranchised kids not by promising them a rock and roll lifestyle they would never achieve, but that confronted that head on. 

"Pink soon marries, and is about to complete his "wall" ("Empty Spaces"). While touring in America, he turns to a willing groupie ("Young Lust"). After learning of his wife's infidelity, he brings the groupie back to his hotel room, only to trash it in a violent fit of rage, terrifying the groupie out of the room ("One of My Turns"). Pink, depressed, thinks about his wife, and feels trapped in his room ("Don't Leave Me Now"), and dismisses every traumatic experience he has ever had as a "brick" in the metaphorical wall ("Another Brick in the Wall, Part 3"), Pink's wall is now finished, completing his total isolation from human contact ("Goodbye Cruel World")."

So, The Wall itself doesn't hold up excellent for me. It is the beginning of what I think of as a very typical 80's Arena Band sound where young bands from the 60s and 70s started to edge into an adult contemporary sound. Glen Fry and Don Henley were pursuing similar artistic paths and sounds around this time, although Pink Floyd still have more of an edge than those two. 


Despite that, both the narrative in the movie and the album of Pink and his wife becoming distant from one another, discovering she is having an affair, turning to a groupie, and ultimately preferring to abuse her mentally by subjecting her to a rage-inspired fit is one of the strongest parts of the album and the film. 

Pink Floyd's themes and the own narratives of Gilmore and uh... the other dude - both speak to a contempt for people in general, their audience in particular. They both seem like fairly arrogant rock-star types who think they're better than most people. Ironically, they came to despise their fans for the very things that made them such a largely successful band. Of course, they have expressed how guilty they feel about this, how conflicted - but it doesn't really change the core revelation about their personalities. They're actually *arrogant* people. 

But, they nailed it in that a "revenge fuck," even a very attractive one - when you have been rejected by someone you actually were invested in is a very hollow feeling - and actually tends to make the rejection feel worse. 

These songs, in their intended order, are my favorite part of the album and the movie. It was the most relatable the story ever got to anyone who wasn't an English orphan of the war raised by an overbearing mother and attending English schools who eventually became a rockstar. 

All Apologies is a perfect song. And such a timely sentiment for a generation that could not have performed what was expected of it both because it wasn't possible and because it would have been a pathetic underachievement. 

Work for one company and retire with a big pension? No, we're building a new, virtual universe. 

And I'm thrilled to see our Everything versus Foo Fighters discussion on here. That's just amazing. 

Mon Nov 23 2020 11:55:03 MST from Wangiss

All Apologies is a perfect song. And such a timely sentiment for a generation that could not have performed what was expected of it both because it wasn't possible and because it would have been a pathetic underachievement. 

Work for one company and retire with a big pension? No, we're building a new, virtual universe. 

I think it was possible - but that future was sold out from under us, by the fucking Boomers who were in control of the Government for the last 40 years. 

Everyone *else* got to ride that gravy train, but my generation was just getting started when they outsourced and offshored it on us - and our best chance of ever getting it back probably just got cheated out of re-election. 

And we're here on this system because that same status quo has already marginalized and muzzled us in the virtual universe. Face it, this is the virtual reality equivalent of a shanty-town ghetto - cardboard houses on disused and abandoned rpads on the decaying outskirt of the sparkling cities that that Information Highway goes right through. 

Maybe we should start making soap.