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[#] Tue Mar 15 2022 14:37:39 MST from Wangiss <wangiss@wallofhate.com>

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I had taken for granted that the nom in astronomy meant naming the stars. But it's the nom from anomie (lawlessness) that refers to order or rules. 

Studying the rules of the stars. The rules you can't just make up. The rules of nature inviolate by social constructivism or any other ideology. Studying the heavens must be ironically rather grounding. 



[#] Wed Mar 16 2022 01:26:43 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>

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So one thing about the dial up BBS - it kept me humble about my intellect - because it was such an exclusive club, it exposed me to people infinitely more brilliant than my above average, but also quite pedestrian intellect. 

The Internet and Facebook muddied that all up - and turned the signal to noise ratio way up on the noise dial. 

This is one such example. I had always just assumed that... I'm not sure... because of the way it is PRONOUNCED - I assumed Astron was the "Skies" part of it and "omy" was the "study" part of it... 

Kind of like Radiology, or Taxidermy and other suffixes that indicate something to do with the UNDERSTANDING of a thing. I just figured the change up... "ology" vs. "onomy" vs "dermy" had to do with the root word and what worked best with it. I mean Astrology and Astrologists was already taken and has a bad rap - right - so I figured Astronomy was kind of "We had to come up with a different suffix to differentiate from those earlier quacks." 

Tonight, the light went on over my head indicated that each of these roots has some (almost certainly Latin) specific meaning about the *nature* of the study other than just saying, "This is the study of things relating to radios," or this is the study and practice of preserving once living things as statues..." 

I mean for practical purposes, in our world today - that is what matters... an ology, an ologist, an onomy, an onomer... these suffixes indicate the study/art and practice - Taxidermy, Taxidermist. Interestingly, there is no Artology, though there is an artist. 

I found Spanish interesting, because I occasionally discovered words like Contiene... the Spanish word for "contain". 

Contain is a word that doesn't make etymological (I wonder what the etymology of etymology is, as it is another example of an ology)... sense. Hmmm... and now you've got me wondering if it is astromical or astronomical... Google thinks the later.

Anyhow... contain... the prefix "con" generally means "against" in English, "Contrary"... Contrast, Convict - it seems to be used to describe negatives. Contain? Is it AGAINST "tain" and what the hell was a "tain" in the history of our English/Germanic heritage that "against a tain" is to "hold something within?"

But contiene - in Spanish - is *clearly* a combination of the latin root "con" - "WITH" and the Spanish word Tener, "To have", conjugated in the "You or It" form of the verb. "Tiene" = "you or it have" and "Con" with... 


"It has it with," lo contiene. 

So... light on for that one - Contain  isn't a Germanic or English word - it comes to us from Latin - and that is why the "Con" prefix seems out of place with the word. 

Thanks for sharing the interesting observation. I learned something cool tonight.  

 


Tue Mar 15 2022 14:37:39 MST from Wangiss <wangiss@wallofhate.com>

I had taken for granted that the nom in astronomy meant naming the stars. But it's the nom from anomie (lawlessness) that refers to order or rules. 

Studying the rules of the stars. The rules you can't just make up. The rules of nature inviolate by social constructivism or any other ideology. Studying the heavens must be ironically rather grounding. 



 



[#] Thu Apr 28 2022 07:31:31 MST from Wangiss <wangiss@wallofhate.com>

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Awesome! 



[#] Sun May 15 2022 23:32:55 MST from TheDave

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The lunar eclipse tonight was nice to watch.  In Mesa it was total.  I didn't take pictures because I have this weird quirk where sometimes I don't want to share the beauty I'm appreciating with anyone else.  It's just for me.