Watching this series on Prime, that is presented as a college level course on archaeology of the American Indians.


The entire first episode is kind of a "social conditioning" syllabus style presentation where he spends a lot of time focusing on how "words matter" and that Indians is right out as a way to refer to the indigenous "First Nation" people of America, as well as arguments against BC/AD vs. BCE/CE and other Leftist doublespeak like that. At points it seems like he really supports it, and at other points you get the impression, "this is just the price you have to pay to be in Academics today, kids, and I'm not really on board with this bullshit either." 

But there is a lot of "They were this sprawling, super advanced civilization... and really - how important is it that their pyramids were mostly made of mud and clay and that they never invented the wheel. They were just a DIFFERENT kind of "advanced" civilization, and it is a lie that they were in decline far before we arrived..." too. 

And of course, some lip service to how we arrived and brought disease and caused their collapse. 

But here is the ironic thing - as they're describing the migration of man - they describe how about 35,000 years ago, man spread from Africa, they arrived and lived side by side with Neanderthal man. 

Unintentionally acknowledging that the first human migration was of Africans into Europe where they displaced another hominoid intelligent species who were there first, resulting in their *absolute* genocide. 

You got it. FIRST blood on genocide and appropriating someone else's land for their own selves? The original sin of territorial conquest? 

Africans. 

No lip service to THAT injustice - which it surely was. Humanity's first extinction of an entire race and species of people. 

Weird how science glosses over that. "No use in crying over spilled milk." 

For some reason, the White Europeans who had originally crawled out of Africa and then decimated the entire population of Cromangon man who had occupied those lands before them weren't a problem in this until they arrived in the Americas and did it to OTHER HOMOSAPIENS who had gotten there first via a land bridge 13k,30k years before. 

This is why academics hate me. I don't miss these kinds of things. 

When are the Africans going to make amends for their unjust genocide of Cro Magnon man? 

Serious question - this thread may end up needing its own room if it takes off... 

Is it somehow more palatable that early homo-sapien colonists displaced cro-mangon and neanderthal man so completely that those species of early human sentience are completely gone - that they are distinctly not of our species? It is effectively the genocide of colonialism - and it is obviously inherent in the geographical conquest of our particular species of the tree of humanity. We started doing it from the second we escaped our place of origin. 

I suppose we owe a debt of gratitude of sorts to early Homosapien African colonists who expanded into the rest of the world that they were so complete in the genocide of peoples they found already occupying the lands the ended to take by conquest. If not, we would certainly be listening to the complaints of the displaced survivors of the native neanderthal and cro magnon nations and the unjust genocide of homosapiens against their native lands and cultures. 

I suppose the first humans did it best. You don't have to feel guilty if there is no one left to feel cheated? 

As I understand it, the various early forms of man were similar enough to be able to have each other's children, and although homo sapiens wiped out all the others, we still carry some of their genes on our chromosomes. I got this information from some genealogy groups I belong to on FaceBook, so it is good for something. There are folks talking about the percentage of Cromagnon inheritance they have, and the diseases that are related. Apparently, 23andme shows not only ethnic heritage, but also this. I tested with Ancestry.com so I didn't see that. Maybe you should start a room for genealogy discussion. I would contribute to that, although I would hope to not be the only person. There are reasons why my daughter and I have tested our heritage.

I'd love to have a room for this. You're on a Citadel - you CAN create your own rooms, though. Click Advanced on the Left menu, and one of the items should be "Create New Room". 

Yeah - breeding a people out of existence is another form of Genocide. The Spanish did this to the Mesoamericans. That is what amuses me when Latinos try and claim oppression by the Western White Patriarchy. They ARE the result of the Western White Patriarchy. There was no one named Gonzalez or Ruiz in the New World before the Spanish came here - no one that looked like Latino Americans here before the Spanish came here. They're far more European than New World indigenous. 

It is just more of the hypocrisy of Critical Race theory - that genocide only becomes an unforgivable sin when white Europeans not of Hispanic descent were engaging in it. Every other ethnic group of homo-sapiens engaged in the practice, and frankly, much better than the white guys - because the other ethnicities didn't leave anyone around to bitch about what was done to them. 

Sun Jan 24 2021 17:30:11 MST from Jerry Moore Jr. Subject: Homo sapiens and other early humans

As I understand it, the various early forms of man were similar enough to be able to have each other's children, and although homo sapiens wiped out all the others, we still carry some of their genes on our chromosomes. I got this information from some genealogy groups I belong to on FaceBook, so it is good for something. There are folks talking about the percentage of Cromagnon inheritance they have, and the diseases that are related. Apparently, 23andme shows not only ethnic heritage, but also this. I tested with Ancestry.com so I didn't see that. Maybe you should start a room for genealogy discussion. I would contribute to that, although I would hope to not be the only person. There are reasons why my daughter and I have tested our heritage.

The pages that time out or disappear on Reddit are always interesting. Note the URL title: 

Let the inquisitions, star-chambers and kangaroo courts begin. 


https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-supporter-faces-ten-years-in-prison-for-posting-memes

Do not displease your rulers, o' subjects of the State. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Dilemma

Watched this tonight. It was good, and unintentionally on-point. The people participating are blissfully unaware that they're a huge part of the problem - and that their political ideology is part of the issue. 

They absolutely strike me as the people who have noticed that bad actors and authoritarian regimes can use Facebook, Google and social media to divide and destroy - and that those people must be stopped. 

But they also seem convinced that they can use those same tools for the GOOD of humanity. 

The strike me as the kind of people who say, "There have to be shared facts. Your "personal truth," cannot be a fact unless it is an actual truth..." 

But then make claims like, "Anthropomorphic Global Climate Change is a truth - and social media is used by people to convince people it ISN'T a truth!" 

They're all bright people, they see the problem - but their own cognitive dissonance prevents them from seeing how they are contributing to the problem, how they are part of the problem, that they can't RESTRICT the way social media and search work so that it only returns information that *they* believe as their *personal* truths - and that silences other people's personal truths that they see as "false news". 

They're smart - but maybe not as smart as they think they are. 

Or maybe what it is they lack is *wisdom*. 

In any case - they're absolutely right, and absolutely wrong at the same time. 

It is worth a watch. 

Sat Feb 06 2021 21:44:04 MST from ParanoidDelusions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Dilemma

 

Watched this tonight. It was good, and unintentionally on-point. The people participating are blissfully unaware that they're a huge part of the problem - and that their political ideology is part of the issue. 

They absolutely strike me as the people who have noticed that bad actors and authoritarian regimes can use Facebook, Google and social media to divide and destroy - and that those people must be stopped. 

But they also seem convinced that they can use those same tools for the GOOD of humanity. 

 

The strike me as the kind of people who say, "There have to be shared facts. Your "personal truth," cannot be a fact unless it is an actual truth..." 

But then make claims like, "Anthropomorphic Global Climate Change is a truth - and social media is used by people to convince people it ISN'T a truth!" 

They're all bright people, they see the problem - but their own cognitive dissonance prevents them from seeing how they are contributing to the problem, how they are part of the problem, that they can't RESTRICT the way social media and search work so that it only returns information that *they* believe as their *personal* truths - and that silences other people's personal truths that they see as "false news". 

They're smart - but maybe not as smart as they think they are. 

Or maybe what it is they lack is *wisdom*. 

In any case - they're absolutely right, and absolutely wrong at the same time. 

It is worth a watch. 

 

Did you see Jack Dorsey and his pet lawyer  vs Tim Pool on the Joe Rogan podcast?  Same shit.  Tim absolutely ruined them but they didn't seem to get it.

I didn't. Link? 

Mon Feb 08 2021 09:51:10 MST from TheDave

 

Sat Feb 06 2021 21:44:04 MST from ParanoidDelusions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Dilemma

 

Watched this tonight. It was good, and unintentionally on-point. The people participating are blissfully unaware that they're a huge part of the problem - and that their political ideology is part of the issue. 

They absolutely strike me as the people who have noticed that bad actors and authoritarian regimes can use Facebook, Google and social media to divide and destroy - and that those people must be stopped. 

But they also seem convinced that they can use those same tools for the GOOD of humanity. 

 

The strike me as the kind of people who say, "There have to be shared facts. Your "personal truth," cannot be a fact unless it is an actual truth..." 

But then make claims like, "Anthropomorphic Global Climate Change is a truth - and social media is used by people to convince people it ISN'T a truth!" 

They're all bright people, they see the problem - but their own cognitive dissonance prevents them from seeing how they are contributing to the problem, how they are part of the problem, that they can't RESTRICT the way social media and search work so that it only returns information that *they* believe as their *personal* truths - and that silences other people's personal truths that they see as "false news". 

They're smart - but maybe not as smart as they think they are. 

Or maybe what it is they lack is *wisdom*. 

In any case - they're absolutely right, and absolutely wrong at the same time. 

It is worth a watch. 

 

Did you see Jack Dorsey and his pet lawyer  vs Tim Pool on the Joe Rogan podcast?  Same shit.  Tim absolutely ruined them but they didn't seem to get it.

I don't know why I don't log into Facebook more often...