Hah! I wonder if there is a legal way to work that question into a job interview. :)
Fri Oct 15 2021 11:19:09 MST from TheDaveThe best part is that by letting the social justice people identify themselves as a preference for where they want to work I can avoid hiring them.
Thu Oct 07 2021 17:12:58 MSTfrom ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>Oh you want social justice? That is extra...
I kinda like that.
Fri Oct 15 2021 14:18:06 MSTfrom ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>Hah! I wonder if there is a legal way to work that question into a job interview. :)
Political affiliation is only a protected status in DC.
You can really fire someone or ask them their political affiliation in an interview?
Well... the deal that I couldn't talk about officially fell through today. It had started out at near a 2.8 million net... then dropped to a 1.7 million net... and I would have made due with a $700k net.
At this point - it looks like we'll try again next year, maybe.
But I did get another $20/hr gig - and that will help. Heh. At least I'll have spending money.
On the other hand, I went to an F1 race this weekend that had a total cost of over $20k for 5 days - and Verstappen kicked Hamilton's ass... so, life isn't all that bad.
Maybe next year I can do it wearing a real Rolex instead of a fake.
Sat Oct 16 2021 11:59:04 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>You can really fire someone or ask them their political affiliation in an interview?
As far as I know, you can. I could be wrong. I plan to put a morality clause into our hiring process that would allow us to fire anyone who threatens physical harm or tries to get someone fired because of their beliefs. The CEO is on board.
People who try to cancel others have no place in my company.
I feel like it might be safer to just leave the employment terms "at will" and fire anyone discovered at doing that without cause.
Fri Oct 29 2021 02:46:14 MST from TheDave
Sat Oct 16 2021 11:59:04 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>You can really fire someone or ask them their political affiliation in an interview?
As far as I know, you can. I could be wrong. I plan to put a morality clause into our hiring process that would allow us to fire anyone who threatens physical harm or tries to get someone fired because of their beliefs. The CEO is on board.
People who try to cancel others have no place in my company.
Sat Oct 30 2021 12:37:06 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>I feel like it might be safer to just leave the employment terms "at will" and fire anyone discovered at doing that without cause.
Fri Oct 29 2021 02:46:14 MST from TheDave
Sat Oct 16 2021 11:59:04 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>You can really fire someone or ask them their political affiliation in an interview?
As far as I know, you can. I could be wrong. I plan to put a morality clause into our hiring process that would allow us to fire anyone who threatens physical harm or tries to get someone fired because of their beliefs. The CEO is on board.
People who try to cancel others have no place in my company.
Entirely possible that you're right, except then places like CA let them sue over it and then you're in court for dumb shit. If you explicitly state in in the contract they can't pretend they didn't know it wasn't okay.
So, picked up part time, temporary work. Pays $18 where the last job paid $21. Remote work, so I don't have to wake up as early, I don't put mileage on my car, I don't have gas expenses, and the commute home at the end of the shift is instantaneous. I won't ever have to pack 75 pound chains in 115 degree heat in a warehouse with only swamp coolers. That is on top of the 1 week gig that paid a half a month's salary.
And I suspect that once I establish my ability - they're probably going to offer me permanent work even once the backlog clears out. They know I'm way over qualified...
Tue Nov 02 2021 15:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>So, picked up part time, temporary work. Pays $18 where the last job paid $21. Remote work, so I don't have to wake up as early, I don't put mileage on my car, I don't have gas expenses, and the commute home at the end of the shift is instantaneous. I won't ever have to pack 75 pound chains in 115 degree heat in a warehouse with only swamp coolers. That is on top of the 1 week gig that paid a half a month's salary.
And I suspect that once I establish my ability - they're probably going to offer me permanent work even once the backlog clears out. They know I'm way over qualified...
Awesome. Sounds like a step up to me. I'm thinking about looking for something else because my stress is through the roof but it would probably be really stupid of me to jump ship now.
We got a new consultant who gave me WAY more power than I ever expected and I'm getting a lot of pushback when I merely suggest things, so part of me wants to say "Okay then, fuck me for asking your opinion, I'll just not ask anymore" but I really don't want to burn bridges either. Also we're out of money and getting pushback on the idea of bringing on some commission-only sales people frankly baffles me. How the fuck do we get more customers with no up front cost if we don't have commission only sales people? And why would you want to cap their salary? That's how you get shitty salespeople.
I think so. Getting to work at home - and doing knowledge work - is absolutely a bonus. The income is marginal, but not significantly different than I was making - and it gives me spending money.
It does suck being empowered to make suggestions but not being empowered to actualize them. You're absolutely right - if you can't afford to pay a salesperson - you're going to have to find one that will work for a cut of the sales he or she makes. I don't see any way around that.
Fri Nov 12 2021 20:36:00 MST from TheDave
Tue Nov 02 2021 15:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>So, picked up part time, temporary work. Pays $18 where the last job paid $21. Remote work, so I don't have to wake up as early, I don't put mileage on my car, I don't have gas expenses, and the commute home at the end of the shift is instantaneous. I won't ever have to pack 75 pound chains in 115 degree heat in a warehouse with only swamp coolers. That is on top of the 1 week gig that paid a half a month's salary.
And I suspect that once I establish my ability - they're probably going to offer me permanent work even once the backlog clears out. They know I'm way over qualified...
Awesome. Sounds like a step up to me. I'm thinking about looking for something else because my stress is through the roof but it would probably be really stupid of me to jump ship now.
We got a new consultant who gave me WAY more power than I ever expected and I'm getting a lot of pushback when I merely suggest things, so part of me wants to say "Okay then, fuck me for asking your opinion, I'll just not ask anymore" but I really don't want to burn bridges either. Also we're out of money and getting pushback on the idea of bringing on some commission-only sales people frankly baffles me. How the fuck do we get more customers with no up front cost if we don't have commission only sales people? And why would you want to cap their salary? That's how you get shitty salespeople.
Sun Nov 14 2021 19:53:13 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>I think so. Getting to work at home - and doing knowledge work - is absolutely a bonus. The income is marginal, but not significantly different than I was making - and it gives me spending money.
It does suck being empowered to make suggestions but not being empowered to actualize them. You're absolutely right - if you can't afford to pay a salesperson - you're going to have to find one that will work for a cut of the sales he or she makes. I don't see any way around that.
Fri Nov 12 2021 20:36:00 MST from TheDave
Tue Nov 02 2021 15:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>So, picked up part time, temporary work. Pays $18 where the last job paid $21. Remote work, so I don't have to wake up as early, I don't put mileage on my car, I don't have gas expenses, and the commute home at the end of the shift is instantaneous. I won't ever have to pack 75 pound chains in 115 degree heat in a warehouse with only swamp coolers. That is on top of the 1 week gig that paid a half a month's salary.
And I suspect that once I establish my ability - they're probably going to offer me permanent work even once the backlog clears out. They know I'm way over qualified...
Awesome. Sounds like a step up to me. I'm thinking about looking for something else because my stress is through the roof but it would probably be really stupid of me to jump ship now.
We got a new consultant who gave me WAY more power than I ever expected and I'm getting a lot of pushback when I merely suggest things, so part of me wants to say "Okay then, fuck me for asking your opinion, I'll just not ask anymore" but I really don't want to burn bridges either. Also we're out of money and getting pushback on the idea of bringing on some commission-only sales people frankly baffles me. How the fuck do we get more customers with no up front cost if we don't have commission only sales people? And why would you want to cap their salary? That's how you get shitty salespeople.
So I got fired lol
They decided that they didn't need me after all because all I do is run HR and Accounting and we don't have enough regular work for that to be worth it, and also the new girl can do my job in addition to all her stuff, and here's the door.
I predicted EVERY DAMN THING that happened to that company. I'm Cassandra. I can see the future and nobody believes me and then it happens and OH NO WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL US.
I'm worth my weight in gold and nobody likes seeing the future because they'd have to actually change anything. Fuck em.
My neighbor and I were talking about this over beers. How job offers always say, "Detail oriented problem solvers a plus..."
But then when you start seeing details and trying to solve problems they tell you, "Don't rock the boat. We've been doing it this way for years without any problems. You should be more positive about the company and its policies and procedures."
So... you DON'T want detail oriented problem solvers, you want mindless yes-men who will ignore the entire building burning down around them. You should have put that in the job offer.
Mon Nov 29 2021 21:07:39 MST from TheDave
Sun Nov 14 2021 19:53:13 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>I think so. Getting to work at home - and doing knowledge work - is absolutely a bonus. The income is marginal, but not significantly different than I was making - and it gives me spending money.
It does suck being empowered to make suggestions but not being empowered to actualize them. You're absolutely right - if you can't afford to pay a salesperson - you're going to have to find one that will work for a cut of the sales he or she makes. I don't see any way around that.
Fri Nov 12 2021 20:36:00 MST from TheDave
Tue Nov 02 2021 15:52:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>So, picked up part time, temporary work. Pays $18 where the last job paid $21. Remote work, so I don't have to wake up as early, I don't put mileage on my car, I don't have gas expenses, and the commute home at the end of the shift is instantaneous. I won't ever have to pack 75 pound chains in 115 degree heat in a warehouse with only swamp coolers. That is on top of the 1 week gig that paid a half a month's salary.
And I suspect that once I establish my ability - they're probably going to offer me permanent work even once the backlog clears out. They know I'm way over qualified...
Awesome. Sounds like a step up to me. I'm thinking about looking for something else because my stress is through the roof but it would probably be really stupid of me to jump ship now.
We got a new consultant who gave me WAY more power than I ever expected and I'm getting a lot of pushback when I merely suggest things, so part of me wants to say "Okay then, fuck me for asking your opinion, I'll just not ask anymore" but I really don't want to burn bridges either. Also we're out of money and getting pushback on the idea of bringing on some commission-only sales people frankly baffles me. How the fuck do we get more customers with no up front cost if we don't have commission only sales people? And why would you want to cap their salary? That's how you get shitty salespeople.
So I got fired lol
They decided that they didn't need me after all because all I do is run HR and Accounting and we don't have enough regular work for that to be worth it, and also the new girl can do my job in addition to all her stuff, and here's the door.
I predicted EVERY DAMN THING that happened to that company. I'm Cassandra. I can see the future and nobody believes me and then it happens and OH NO WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL US.
I'm worth my weight in gold and nobody likes seeing the future because they'd have to actually change anything. Fuck em.
I've been at my new job for 2 weeks. I'm a dispatcher for a materials testing company, mostly testing concrete and related building stuff for industrial jobs. The last 3 people they had were totally incompetent and didn't understand what the techs would do in the field. I come in and they're used to people getting overwhelmed and doing a shitty job and trying to hide how shitty they are, so they ask me how I'm doing. After 3 days I was already better than the last girl after 3 months, and my stress level is way lower here, so I'm pretty happy and they're surprised that this isn't getting to me. Bitch please, this isn't stress, you don't understand what real stress is.
Trying to explain my old job sounds like I'm bragging even though it was a shit show. But yeah, I'm happier working somewhere that I can make a difference and ease the load on others. Once the boomers in charge retire, I'll be able to computerize the place. We're still using PAPER for everything. It's hilarious. The system is so badly designed that I'm pretty sure I can put half the company out of work with a few simple web forms.
Yeah... I get it. I came in to a dispatch department too... and their system, while computerized, isn't vertically or horizontally integrated. You end up typing in phone numbers manually in 3 separate programs, two different web apps and two different spreadsheets for EACH customer - and in several cases, you can't cut and paste. And there are a dozen (literally) different steps in finishing a ticket if EVERYTHING goes according to script, but there are about 4 or 5 different branching scenarios that change all of that.
So - I trained for 3 weeks, and evidently they generally give a 6 week training period, then I went live, by myself, without shadowing - and the first day, did more outbound calls than any of the senior employees - and have been giving them a run for the money every day since.
It isn't that they're bad - they're actually really good at it. But - I'm just used to WAY more demanding roles. This is not EASY work - but it isn't the same as managing a data center serving over 250 employees and external hosted user seats.
Of course, it doesn't really pay as well, either.
It is amazing that businesses manager to do business with such terrible SYSTEMS or workflows in place, though. Like - "you're successful in SPITE of your best attempts to fail. How do you do that?"
Fri Dec 17 2021 22:56:01 MST from TheDaveI've been at my new job for 2 weeks. I'm a dispatcher for a materials testing company, mostly testing concrete and related building stuff for industrial jobs. The last 3 people they had were totally incompetent and didn't understand what the techs would do in the field. I come in and they're used to people getting overwhelmed and doing a shitty job and trying to hide how shitty they are, so they ask me how I'm doing. After 3 days I was already better than the last girl after 3 months, and my stress level is way lower here, so I'm pretty happy and they're surprised that this isn't getting to me. Bitch please, this isn't stress, you don't understand what real stress is.
Trying to explain my old job sounds like I'm bragging even though it was a shit show. But yeah, I'm happier working somewhere that I can make a difference and ease the load on others. Once the boomers in charge retire, I'll be able to computerize the place. We're still using PAPER for everything. It's hilarious. The system is so badly designed that I'm pretty sure I can put half the company out of work with a few simple web forms.
Sat Dec 18 2021 17:02:08 MST from ParanoidDelusions <paranoiddelusions@wallofhate.com>Yeah... I get it. I came in to a dispatch department too... and their system, while computerized, isn't vertically or horizontally integrated. You end up typing in phone numbers manually in 3 separate programs, two different web apps and two different spreadsheets for EACH customer - and in several cases, you can't cut and paste. And there are a dozen (literally) different steps in finishing a ticket if EVERYTHING goes according to script, but there are about 4 or 5 different branching scenarios that change all of that.
So - I trained for 3 weeks, and evidently they generally give a 6 week training period, then I went live, by myself, without shadowing - and the first day, did more outbound calls than any of the senior employees - and have been giving them a run for the money every day since.
It isn't that they're bad - they're actually really good at it. But - I'm just used to WAY more demanding roles. This is not EASY work - but it isn't the same as managing a data center serving over 250 employees and external hosted user seats.Of course, it doesn't really pay as well, either.
It is amazing that businesses manager to do business with such terrible SYSTEMS or workflows in place, though. Like - "you're successful in SPITE of your best attempts to fail. How do you do that?"
Fri Dec 17 2021 22:56:01 MST from TheDaveI've been at my new job for 2 weeks. I'm a dispatcher for a materials testing company, mostly testing concrete and related building stuff for industrial jobs. The last 3 people they had were totally incompetent and didn't understand what the techs would do in the field. I come in and they're used to people getting overwhelmed and doing a shitty job and trying to hide how shitty they are, so they ask me how I'm doing. After 3 days I was already better than the last girl after 3 months, and my stress level is way lower here, so I'm pretty happy and they're surprised that this isn't getting to me. Bitch please, this isn't stress, you don't understand what real stress is.
Trying to explain my old job sounds like I'm bragging even though it was a shit show. But yeah, I'm happier working somewhere that I can make a difference and ease the load on others. Once the boomers in charge retire, I'll be able to computerize the place. We're still using PAPER for everything. It's hilarious. The system is so badly designed that I'm pretty sure I can put half the company out of work with a few simple web forms.
Once I understand all the existing systems I'll be putting something together to make my job easier. Hell, at this point I could already improve my job just by putting slack or discord on all the phones of the techs I send out.
Things that make enterprise IT engineers shudder...
But... I get it, unorthodox solutions are sometimes a necessary thing. :)
Sun Dec 26 2021 11:21:55 MST from TheDave
Once I understand all the existing systems I'll be putting something together to make my job easier. Hell, at this point I could already improve my job just by putting slack or discord on all the phones of the techs I send out.
PD, as promised on the real wall of hate, here is my new project:
***MBUYU 65-second video script***
[Note: please forgive the punctuation. This is written for dramatic timing, not for grammar.]
(Burundian voice)
My ancestors are from Africa.
But I don't know their names.
Even if I knew where to look...
Could I even find out?
(Different voice of any African or African-American accent)
This is a common story for Africans, African Americans, and the rest of the African diaspora. Often, centuries of tragedy stand between them... and knowledge about their heritage. In many cases, the truth about African ancestry is just sitting behind a locked door, and there is no one to release it to the world. Until... MBUYU.
The state of Burundi is approving a national genealogical archive so that people all over the world can discover their heritage. The MBUYU project will pay local people, right in Burundi, for their efforts to scan and upload information about African ancestry. And it will fund a public archive, available to the whole world, that will store this information.
The goal eventually is to make records available from every interested African nation. And this is where you come in. Your donation will help unlock the truth about African ancestry.
MBUYU
It's time...
to Unlock Africa.
We're launching during Black History Month. If we get a few famous black people to back this, it could go megaviral. I'm very excited about it. My job is marketing, so I wrote that script, for example. I'm also probably going to run the social, but we'll see. They have to pay me $42/hour or I don't work. It's a contract gig.
By the way, TheDave, the girl who took your job quit because she doesn't understand coding. ;)
The LDS is making a major charge to turn around their image as racist - toward blacks in particular.
And of course, this is their forte - genealogy and heritage - so it makes a lot of sense.
I hope it works out well for the church - and for helping black Americans to assimilate into U.S. culture - something I see that they struggle with - they feel apart of so many things that they see as white - it builds a wall between them and whites... whereas, for example... I don't think Indians feel apart or excluded from whites. The cabby or the guy behind the counter at the quik-e-mart - treats me as his equal. It never occurs to him to be guarded with me. Same for the Latino or the Asian.
But black people - they feel like they have to be careful how familiar they are with me - at least, a lot of them - because I'm white. Therefore - It becomes very difficult to actually bond with them.
Wed Feb 02 2022 19:38:48 MST from Wangiss <wangiss@wallofhate.com>We're launching during Black History Month. If we get a few famous black people to back this, it could go megaviral. I'm very excited about it. My job is marketing, so I wrote that script, for example. I'm also probably going to run the social, but we'll see. They have to pay me $42/hour or I don't work. It's a contract gig.
By the way, TheDave, the girl who took your job quit because she doesn't understand coding. ;)
Parker said it was because she didn't think the company was growing fast enough. I'd be happy to accept my old position again, but I somehow doubt that I'm wanted. It would be nice to actually have a project to direct and start building iEarn the way I wanted it instead of the weird mutant version that Christine was trying to make.